E150 - Lisa Murphy - Turning 60
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Beth: [00:00:00] Recording Welcome, my creative friend, back to another episode of Create Today! with Beth Buffington. You know, one of my favorite guests to have on the podcast is Lisa Murphy.
And she has just done something amazing that I have asked her to come and talk about. Now, to remind you who Lisa Murphy is, she is a vibrant living coach, and she helps women who are in midlife get away from burnout to find adventure. And wow, has she been adventurous lately. Lisa,
let's start talking about this amazing thing that you've just accomplished.
Lisa: Hey. Whoo! Beth, thank you so much. It's always so fun to be back on here, and thank you so much for having me. And yes, I did just have an incredible adventure, and that's really what's fueling my fire for my work right now, is I want every woman to have an adventure of her own.
And it doesn't have to be anything [00:01:00] like mine. But I want you, your listeners, I want everyone to have an adventure, because it was life-changing, so I can't wait to dive in with you.
Beth: So Lisa, tell us what you've just done.
Lisa: Okay. Thanks for asking. I turned 60 recently, and knowing that I was gonna turn 60, I decided last year that I wanted to have this grand adventure.
So I decided that I wanted to through-hike the Isle of Anglesey, which, if you're not familiar, it's an island off the coast of Wales. And I had done a lot of day hiking on the island in the past, but I'd never gone all the way around the island point to point, so I decided I was gonna do this. And that's exactly what I did.
It was about 145 miles, and I did it in nine days by myself without earbuds.
Beth: Wow. Yeah, all those things layered up together- ... it's, crazy. Just [00:02:00] crazy. And, hey, by the way, welcome to the club. It's an awesome club- Oh, yeah ... to be over 60. yeah. yay, I'm glad you're here with me finally. Me,
Lisa: first
Beth: I love that you decided to do this, and then you said, A, "I'm gonna do it on my own," and B, you did it unplugged. I think for me, that would've been the hardest part- ... because part of me is always going, I've got some time here. Maybe I'll listen to a book or a podcast."
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: Oh, me, too. how hard was that for you to unplug?
Lisa: to be fair, I really wanna, I wanna be fully transparent. I did use my phone for navigational purposes, okay? So- Oh, thankfully ... I wasn't completely-
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: Yeah. yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just, I wasn't completely off grid. But yeah, it's interesting.
I didn't even think about was it gonna be hard not to listen, because I too listen to podcasts when I work out. I think living where I live in Asheville, North Carolina, we walk in the mountains a lot, and people do, but I absolutely do not wear earbuds when I'm walking in nature, one, [00:03:00] because I wanna hear the sounds of nature, and two, there are bears everywhere, and I do not wanna be surprised by a bear.
So it really wasn't that big of a leap for me. But I was out there for hours and hours, and I thought about it once. I was like, "Oh, I could've listened to something." But I thought, "No, because then I wouldn't hear the silence." I wanted to hear the silence, and part of why I went was to challenge myself both physically and mentally.
And there was plenty to listen to between my ears, don't get me wrong. So yeah, it's an interesting question, and it wasn't... It would be difficult maybe in under a different scenario, but it was not so bad. It wasn't really that hard for me.
Beth: So you said listen to the silence.
I remember listening to a podcast about a researcher who that's d- what he did, is he went places to find out where he could go where it could be perfectly silent.
But my guess is for [00:04:00] you, the, it wasn't perfectly silent because you were listening to your footfalls, you were listening to the wind or to the animals. but silence for you, what did that equal? Can you explain that?
Lisa: Oh, yeah. That's such a cool question. Yeah, there's always the sounds of nature, the wind, the ocean.
The Isle of Anglesey is obviously an island, so it's... I hiked the coastal path. to me, silence is being with myself, and that can be a really big challenge-
Beth: ...
Lisa: is sitting with ourselves in silence when the voices inside our head may get really loud. So I just wanted to be with my thoughts. I wanted to be with the present moment.
I wanted to take the external stimulations that I could away. And I think when I took away this external stimulation of [00:05:00] listening, I was able to see so much more. I was able to experience so much more, because we eliminated one input really.
Beth: So what was the hardest part? Was it the, the solitude that you were feeling-
with being by yourself for so many hours on so many days, or was it the physical, exertion of walking that many miles? what do you feel like was your biggest challenge?
Lisa: Yeah, it was you know, and everyone's different. Being alone was not a challenge for me at all. I actually really do enjoy being by myself, and I've practiced that a lot, just like I've practiced being in silence a lot.
I have, a pretty longstanding- Meditative practice of silence, which by the way, silence itself is a practice
So I'll- I'll get back on track, I [00:06:00] promise, but, if you think about what we do first thing in the morning, so often it is picking up the phone, turning something on, flipping on a podcast, listening to music.
So for me, silence has been a practice for a really long time. I like the quiet, and I like to be with myself. so back to solitude, I actually really enjoyed it a lot. I loved being out there by myself. What was the hardest part? I was really concerned that my body might not hold up when I went, and I had some niggling injuries that I was a little bit concerned about.
And, even though I trained, I never walked 24 miles in one day, which I knew I was gonna have to do on my hike. so I was a little concerned with what might happen, and I was pleasantly surprised that my body held up amazing. I just, oh, thank you, thank you, body.
It was just absolutely incredible that I felt fine. [00:07:00] I'm still amazed, and I'm not saying this with pride. I'm truly saying this with amazement. And I think I got lucky. You know, I didn't trip and fall, which is so easy to happen no matter how awesome you are. I think the hardest part for me was worrying about the logistics.
Okay, do I have enough water in my pack? because I had to carry water for the whole day. Most of the days There was nothing. it is wild Anglesey. In fact, I hate to even tell people about it 'cause I want it to stay that way. But it's not like there's a 7-Eleven or a QuikTrip.
there's nothing. I didn't tell my mom this until after, but I didn't see people very often. there was nothing, you know? I'd never done anything like this before. It was definitely outside of my comfort zone. So I was worried about, do I have enough water? Do I have enough nutrition?
am I gonna get lost?
How long [00:08:00] i- is it gonna take me to get to where I'm going to stay? 'Cause I was not backpacking. Sometimes I had to meet a pickup point. I had to be at a pickup point to get a ride from the trailhead to my B&B. So I hiked point to point, carried a day pack, and then I just had to get from place to place.
So it's interesting. I was worried most about all those logistics.
And then a couple of days in, I went, "Holy cow. Wait a minute." This is what you came out here for. just be in it,
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: And put that aside. But I think that was partly because I'd never done it before, and I think that was partly because that's what we do in our day.
We're going to the next thing. We're looking at our calendar. Where do I have to be? What do I have to do? And it took me a few days to finally just go, "Oh, wait a second. All I have to do is walk."
Beth: Okay, there's a couple things I wanna just, have you expound on a little bit. First of all, the [00:09:00] data.
I know that's what I get lost in. When Tom and I take a bike ride and I know where we're going, I'm always doing the data. am I halfway to halfway? because I'm thinking about the, just the energy reserves I have, and am I gonna be able to do this whole ride
So I'm checking my energy the whole time. So I imagine that's what you were doing, like, how am I feeling?
And I kinda have a deadline. Someone's gonna be looking for me at this certain time. Am I at a speed that I will be able to make what I promised? Yeah. when you were able to say to yourself, "Wait. You're doing fine." "Enjoy yourself," that reminded me of, I had a girlfriend who, when she turned 40, she decided she was gonna do a triathlon 'cause she thought she was so old.
She was 40. But one of the things she said that always stuck with me was someone had told her, "When you do the triathlon, you're so busy making sure you get all the things done, that you forget to be in the moment and revel in what you're doing and your body's [00:10:00] ability to do it." And that word revel has never left me.
And I think that's what you were able to do- Yeah ... when you finally went, "Whoop, stop. we're, we're moving along at a pretty good pace. I'm gonna be able to do this thing. Let's enjoy the moments, because that's what I came here for." Yeah. Does that make sense?
Lisa: 100%, and that's exactly what happened, after a couple days.
And to be fair, after a couple of days, I had some miles behind me.
when... I think that's part of why we don't put ourselves outside of our comfort zone maybe enough, dare I say, is because it's unfamiliar. We've never done it before. And we don't know if we can do it. We don't know what it's gonna be like.
But once you do it, then you've got your own data.
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: And you're like, "Okay, I had 12 miles yesterday, and I did it in so many hours, so I know I'm gonna be fine, 'cause I only have..." And I found myself saying this, "I only have 10 more miles to go." things you never thought you'd hear yourself say. "I only [00:11:00] have 10 more miles to go."
I only have so much further to go, and by the way, I did it yesterday, I know I can do it again. So I think so much of this is about our brains and our nervous systems, and I know as a creative, and that's so much of the work you do and the work we do together, is like how can we calm our nervous system and our minds?
And creativity does that. And for me, once I was able to say, "Okay, self, you did this yesterday. You can do this again, so why don't you sit back and enjoy the ride a little bit more and notice some of these amazing things around you?" yeah, I was able to, I was able to relax into it then.
Beth: knowing that you were able to relax into it and you were in it to observe and absorb, let's talk a little bit about what you know about the research about outdoor activities and what good they do for your body, not just in, [00:12:00] getting your muscles strong, but, like- Yeah ... what else are they doing for you, Lisa?
Lisa: Oh my gosh, just the act of being out of doors. It's called nature therapy.
There's been so much research done on this in Eastern cultures, particularly Japan. if you can spend time out in nature- You could just go sit in nature, but the benefits are compounded by moving your body and being physically active. it helps to improve your mental health, anxiety and depression go down.
It boosts your physical health, and one of the most amazing statistics that I love to talk about is when we're out in nature, our NK cells, that's our natural killer cells, these are the cells that fight off cancer. their production is boosted.
Beth: Wow.
Lisa: what more do we need to hear, Yeah.
So the simple act of being [00:13:00] outdoors, of being in nature and then if you throw movement on top of it, you're getting like the, the super-duper benefits of moving, plus you're in nature. So yeah, I, I like really got my dose, didn't I? I, for nine days in a row, I was out there for at least five to six hours, up to 10 to 12.
Yeah, and it was, I think that was maybe one of the hardest things when I came home, is I didn't wanna go back indoors. I got so used to being outside all day long,
Beth: So the high that you inhaled while you were out there- Yeah ... do you, you feel like it's still with you?
Lisa: Man, yeah. Oh It's infectious. So I think specifically for me, yes, I wanna have more adventures, many more adventures. And personally, I would like them to be outdoors and something physical. But just the whole idea of [00:14:00] having an adventure, like I... Again, I just feel like, "Woo, I did it. what is next?"
You just feel like, "Bring it on. I did this thing, and I can't wait to see what's next." I haven't decided yet, but I have a lot of ideas, it's like creativity, I think, at least my experience of creativity. And, I didn't think I was creative until I met Beth and started working with you, Beth, and now I know everyone's creative.
But once you open things up and you just start, like you just start doodling.
And before you know it, you've drawn this whole page, We just have to get it going sometimes. I've always been really active but I wouldn't have been nearly as excited and enthusiastic about trying something that you might call an adventure.
And now I'm just like, "Bring 'em on. bring it, bring it."
Beth: I love that. I love that. Now, what I [00:15:00] know that we know is that if you're thinking, I could never walk that much, so I don't think I could do something that adventuresome," let's talk a little bit about, what does research say about adventure, and what does that look like if you think, "I can't walk 12 to 24 miles a day.
What can I do instead?" Lisa, what would you offer up to, a new client or a listener today that's looking at a way to become more adventuresome?
Lisa: 100%, it does not have to be hiking around Wales. It does not have to be hiking at all. What it can be is something that gets you outside of your comfort zone, something that is going to stretch you just eventhe slightest bit.
It could also be something that you've always wanted to do And so I think a lot of it for me was, when we have these big birthdays, it's like, "Okay, I'm at this point in my life. What have I always wanted to do?" And, to be fair, I know I'm probably [00:16:00] gonna live fewer years than what I've already lived, so what maybe had I better get down to doing?
So I think it can be something that's just a little bit exciting for you. It can be something that you've always wanted to do but you just haven't done yet. And oh my gosh, it could be make a quilt. It could be learn to crochet.
It could be something as simple as going out to eat at a restaurant you've never been to by yourself without your phone.
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: that would be exciting and challenging.
and I think what is on the other side of adventure, no matter what it is, and maybe this helps to remember it doesn't have to be getting on an airplane, is that once you're on the other side of your adventure, you look back and go, "Oh yeah, I did that.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah." I did that, yeah. I did that. I did that, I... What about for you, Beth? can you think of some adventures that you might like to have? I'm putting the interviewer on the spot here.
Beth: Yeah. No, this [00:17:00] year, Tom and I did a bike tour in Pennsylvania. That was a stretch for me.
it was biking longer than I had biked in a while. We did, around 40 miles a day. For me, that was a lot, because, biking 20 miles was my average, so pushing that twice as far and then doing that for four days was something that I was a little nervous about, And so when we got done with that, e- and we came home, my next thought was, "Where will we go next?"
yeah. So we're already thinking about doing another, bike tour in Santa Fe, New Mexico next year,
But, when you were talking about, just getting out of your comfort zone, it reminded me that, there was a time... I live in the Chicago suburbs, and there was a time where my business was so busy that I was just basically home cranking out deadlines, and my world got small. So small that if I needed to drive somewhere, I tried to avoid expressways and the toll roads- I was not a [00:18:00] fan of taking the train downtown, and part of that wasn't because, oh, I didn't want the traffic, or I don't like the train.
It was because it seemed scary.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: So what happened to me was something would happen where I had to take the expressway or the only way to get where I needed to go was to get on that train, and so it happened. And when that commute was over, when the train ride happened, I realized I survived- and actually had an okay time doing it, especially on the train. It opened up my world to something that then made me think now that I am not afraid of being on the expressway. right now, guys, I will drive anywhere. I drove myself to Louisville, Kentucky,
But what can you do then to get yourself to open up your world? And- Yeah ... it can start really small as I will just take a train ride,
Lisa: Yeah. I love that so much [00:19:00] because if we are not careful, our world does shrink in on us. And I love the way you described it. Or the way I took from your comment was it opens up a sense of possibility for us.
Beth: Yes. Yeah.
Lisa: Where we tend to, as we get older, think our possibilities are limited, and they are not.
Beth: No.
Lisa: They are not. it might be interesting for everyone to think about their typical day now. what does it look like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday?
Is it the same? Do you get up at the same time every morning? Which by the way, I recommend because that helps to reset your circadian rhythm. Just a, a little health coaching plug in there. Do you eat the same thing for breakfast every morning?
Do you go to the exact same coffee shop every morning? Do you have the same thing for lunch every day? Do you walk your dog the same direction around the block? Now, there's not necessarily anything wrong with doing this. You may love your barista at the coffee [00:20:00] shop. That's awesome. But what happens is when we tend to get on autopilot like this- Yep
it's like we're sleepwalking through our life. Yep. And we're not exposing ourselves to meeting new people or seeing new things. it's a silly thing, but this could be a really great experiment, and maybe this is the first place for your listeners to start with their adventure, is go on your walk in the opposite direction.
Beth: I'm a big fan of routines and rituals, and you and I have been on a podcast where we talked about rituals, like what should you be doing. But you need to know the difference between a ritual, a routine, and a rut.
Lisa: Mm.
Beth: Right? A rut is where you're so ingrained in what you do, "This is how I do it."
"This is the way I've always done," hands on hips, and you're stuck. You're stuck in that one way to do that one thing. And I think what happens is not only do we get afraid of doing something [00:21:00] outside of that rut, but we're also afraid of meeting people who aren't in the same rut with us.
And that's when we get suspicious of other people who don't do what we do, and we don't understand people who don't think the way we think and do what we do always, and we are afraid to do something that isn't just, "That's always the way we've done it."
When we experiment, when we get adventuresome, we meet those new people, we see other people living in a way that isn't like we live, and they're happy, and they're kind, and they have, ideas that are similar to ours.
We find out that the world is bigger than the rut we're living in,
Lisa: I love that so much. Ritual, routine, rut. That's awesome, Beth. Yeah. And I think that speaks to if we're not careful, our worlds will get so small. And then that is when the fear can start to creep in.
I don't know if I go the other way on my walk- What am I gonna see?
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: And that becomes something that we can't help. [00:22:00] That becomes brain-based as well, because what is familiar, our brain feels and thinks and believes is safe.
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: Because it hasn't killed us yet. But if we've never walked around the block that way or ridden the train into the city or gone out to dinner by ourselves, of course none of those things are probably gonna kill us, but our nervous system, our brain doesn't know that because we've never done it before.
So then it elicits fear, which we don't ever wanna live from fear-
Beth: and we spend a lot of time on our phones listening to the news, and the news is saying, "Here's all the violence happening, on the trains or on the expressways, and here's all the shootings and the violence and the assaults,"
But what we don't know is all the people who successfully- ... commute downtown on the train Yeah. We just hear about the problems that are happening- Yeah ... with those people, and it makes us wanna stay inside our rut, because we feel safer there.
Lisa: yeah.
Beth: Absolutely ... a little bit of [00:23:00] that is seriously getting out of your safety zone to find out- Absolutely ... that it's not as scary as it could be. you wanna stay safe. Yeah, of course.
Lisa: We should stay safe. We're- I was careful. I'm not saying that you should, go out hiking, by yourself, in Nepal without a headlamp where you might fall off a cliff.
Not saying that. But, I was very careful and cautious, and I had safety precautions and all that, but,
Beth: Yeah, 'cause you had... You checked how much water do I need, you had your GPS on your phone. You had people who knew where to pick you up at the end- Yeah ... of the day. And I know from talking to you before you left that you had been working out and exercising and getting yourself ready for this new taxation on your body, and I also know that you had carefully planned how far you were gonna go each day so that you could reach your goals.
So you're not just willy-nilly going out there. No. You were prepared. You had your safety net. but you did [00:24:00] something that was outside of anything you did, and you did it by yourself.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: I think that's the cool thing about adventure, is that we really never know what's gonna happen at the end of the day.
And I was having coffee with a friend before I went, and I mentioned I had a few little niggling injuries, and I was telling her about it, and I said, "You know-" if this really becomes a problem, it could honestly just, ruin my whole trip. Really. I'm really being honest. I was trying really hard not to go there, but of course that was in the back of my mind.
And my friend said to me, you're going on an adventure. You just don't know which one you're gonna have. You're going on an adventure, for sure, but it may turn out different than what you expect." And I was like, wow, I was so blown away by that. And that's the thing about adventure.
We can plan, we can train, we can do all the things, but then at the end of the day, we have to let go to any attachment to the outcome, which is [00:25:00] hard So we don't know what the real adventure is going to be once we finish.
Beth: So glass half full, you go out there and you think, okay, I'm gonna do my best, and then I'm gonna go to bed," which is something I always tell my students. "Just do your best and go to bed." "Get a good night's sleep." Yeah. And so that's basically what you were going to do. Yeah. And had you twisted an ankle, you would've had a story to tell,
That might've been your last day. but you had to be ready and prepared to embrace whatever the day brought, and think, I will deal with that if I need to." And I'm sure, had you twisted your ankle and you weren't able to finish, you were able to call someone and go, "I am here.
Lisa: I'm gonna drop a pin where I am. Come get me. I feel so silly, but I tripped over a sheep," were the sheep. That probably the most dangerous thing on my hike were the sheep. Actually, the cows. There were a few cows. Yeah, exactly, right? And I think that's what makes it adventure, because we don't really know what's [00:26:00] gonna happen. Otherwise, it's not an adventure. Yeah. Otherwise, we're just sleepwalking through our lives.
We're in that routine or rut,
Beth: Yeah. Yeah, if you're not a little bit afraid to do it, maybe you haven't made it challenging enough, right? Exactly.
Lisa: I think you're right.
If it's super safe and comfortable, maybe it's not an adventure, but if you are a person who hasn't taken an adventure in a very long time, then I would recommend starting with something that feels very safe so that your nervous system is "Okay, we got this. We can do this." And then after you do that, your next one will be just a little bit bigger.
now I'm just like, "Bring it, baby. I can't wait,"
Beth: be smart- think about what your needs are, and start small for you- ... and then grow bigger for you.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: And see what that means, It might mean, like me that one day, I'm just gonna take the train.
That's
Lisa: right.
Beth: And I remember [00:27:00] just being so anxious about that, and then at the end of the day thinking, "I took the train all by myself." And then from that, the train then became a tool. I'll just take the train," became something I actually said.
Lisa: "
Beth: I'll just take the train." Instead of, "Oh my gosh, I have to take the train."
It's such a difference in the way you look at your world, because now you know you can. Instead of before, you thought maybe I shouldn't or I couldn't or I can't.
Lisa: Yeah. Even just when... If we go back to creativity, when I met you, I'm not creative.
Beth: Mm.
Lisa: Like that was... I think there's so much about our, the way we describe ourselves and our identity.
And, I really believe that mood follows action. So it's behavior, belief, identity.
Beth: Hmm.
Lisa: For me- If we do it, then we believe in ourselves just a little bit, and then it can become part of our identity. So you helped me realize, [00:28:00] okay, I can doodle. That's creative. Then you helped me realize that gardening is surely creative.
Cooking is surely creative. The writing that I do for my business and my clients, and the content I create is surely creative. Yeah. So then I'm like, "I believe that. I believe I'm creative," and now that's part of who I believe that I am. It's my identity. I'm a creative, and I don't even hesitate to say that now.
Yeah. And that's a big thanks to you. But I think sometimes we just gotta get a little bit of experience in under our belt, take the first step- ... do the thing, and it really can snowball, no matter what it is that you're doing, no matter what it is at all, whether it's a physical pursuit, a health goal, an artistic goal, a professional challenge.
Beth: And if your adventure is something like, I have to take the train, and it is scary for you, if you can flip the coinand say, "Okay, I- I'm going to [00:29:00] make this an adventure.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: Instead of, "I have to take the train and I am so afraid, I'm so anxious," that is what I'm going to focus on, how anxious I am.
But if you can say, I'm going to take the train and I'm going to make this an adventure. And yeah, I'm scared, but I'm gonna go and find the things I find fascinating on the day," while I am being careful about what I need to do in order to take the train and know what station I need to get off at or how I find my train home,
But being able to see the world in a different way
Lisa: is important. 'Cause if you would've taken your trip and the entire time you were out there said, "Oh, is that a blister? Do I feel a blister? Oh no, it's a blister," or, "Oh, I'm afraid of every cow I see.
Beth: What if I see a cow?" "I'm afraid." If you would've spent your days like that, that would've been a really long not adventure for you that you probably would say, "Done that, won't do again," right?
Lisa: Yeah. That's awesome. I love that so much. You're right. I love the reframe of a challenge or [00:30:00] something slightly scary as an adventure, because then we can break it down into a process.
Maybe this is a process for having an adventure. We make a plan. what do we need to do to prepare, to train? Do we need resources? what do we need to do to get ready? And then the final piece is, I don't know what's gonna happen. This is gonna be an adventure, and we let go of any and all expectations-
Beth: to what the final result may be.
you and I have not talked about this, but I just had this seed of an idea right now, so I'm gonna say it to the entire audience. But Lisa and I, co-host a creative wellness program called Sylva Sessions, and we have a mighty band of amazing people who come in with creativity being very different for each other.
But we come in with our creativity and look at that through the eyes of core care, which is our physical health, creative care, and also community care, which is how we take care of each other as a group. and if you're listening to this today going, "I wanna take [00:31:00] an adventure," you need to join us inside Sylva Sessions.
But what if we did next year for Sylva Sessions, what is your adventure? I love it. And then we figured out ways to plan, and then reframe, how we're going to go about getting that done, and then we celebrated everybody's adventure as they took it. how fun would that be, right?
Lisa: I love it. That would be awesome, because there's nothing like community support, accountability. The data shows that if we announce our goal, whatever it is, I'm going to hike the Isle of Anglesey in Wales, we are much more likely to achieve it, and it takes a village. I had so much support along the way. I may have been hiking by myself, but I had Rob at home.
He was my remote navigator. He helped me with the navigation. I had support there locally on the ground. So I think that's an absolutely fantastic idea, Beth.
Beth: So if you are listening today going, [00:32:00] "I feel like I need to take an adventure, but I'm not quite sure how. I would love to have some help," all you need to do is go to the show notes, and I will have a link to how you can sign up for Sylva Sessions.
And, come for a session and just see if you like it. We'd love to have you- Yeah ... just give it a shot and see. Come
Lisa: check us out.
Beth: Check us out. So I will have that link there for you. But Lisa, do you wanna, explain a little bit more about what we do at Sylva Sessions?
Lisa: Yeah. It's so cool.
It's creative wellness, It's getting creative with your personal wellness. Yeah. How can you care for your physical body in creative ways? It's not the same prescription for everyone, and it's also wellness for your creativity.
So I bring the wellness part, and Beth, you bring the creative part. So exercises, content, sessions where we talk about ways to improve your- Physical wellness and [00:33:00] ways to improve your creative wellness. But one of the pieces that I love maybe most of all is our sessions rotate. We do a session on core care, which is the personal wellness, creative care, which is how are you caring for your creativity, and then the third session is always about community.
Beth: Yes.
Lisa: Because we are so much stronger together, we are so much better together, and that's where we support each other with challenges, we celebrate with each other, and that's maybe my favorite part.
Beth: Oh, it by far is our- ... strongest sessions. it always blows us out of the water because everyone comes with their celebrations or their challenges, and they share and cheer and support and encourage.
And, we've had laughter and tears and, oh my gosh, such goodness comes from those sessions. I always feel very filled up when we're done with community sessions.
Lisa: I think every session is an [00:34:00] adventure in and of itself, but our community sessions definitely are because we never know where we're gonna go.
Beth: Yeah.
Lisa: It's always an adventure.
Beth: Always an adventure. So yeah, if we can make, a, a side goal for Sylva Sessions next year being, okay, let's pick your adventure- ... and then let's do some planning.
but oh my gosh- I'd love it ... I have so many ideas for it. so if that sounds like fun for you, I want you to come and join us. I- we will have such a good time. Lisa, what's on your list for what you might want to do next?
Lisa: Ah, gosh. Or- one thing that's really scary is I wanna go camping by myself.
I live where there are bears. so the first step I'm gonna take towards that is I'm gonna go car camping, so I can sleep in my car, and I don't have to worry about the bears. that is a relatively short-tailed adventure that I wanna have. I really wanna do some more hiking.
So I really just loved the movement.we were born to move, and our bodies love movement, so I'm really interested in some more long [00:35:00] through hikes. I've got a few in mind. Stay tuned on that. And because I do love to be by myself, and I get some of my best- I hate to say thinking.
I, I would like to say feeling. I get some of my best feeling when I'm by myself. I'm looking forward to maybe in the winter months taking a couple of days, just picture like a snowy cabin where you're closed in with, no computers, books, my journal, and ability to do some writing. So those are some things that I'm thinking about coming
Beth: up.
Oh, I love those ideas. I'm here in the Midwest, And Lake Michigan is really close to us,
I would love to go up to Lake Michigan in January, I've said this to Tom so many times, and just get,an Airbnb that is looking out over the lake, and just be there. It'd be super cool to be there during a snowfall.
And just see what the lake looks like during the wintertime, and just see where my brain takes me.
Because- [00:36:00]
Lisa: Yeah ...
Beth: when we go we see maybe a handful of people walking their dogs while we're out there, and it's just a, "Hi, how are you doing?" And that's it, So there's a lot of time just to listen to the waves and look at the sky and think.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: And the stuff that kind of bubbles up is always something I take home with me-
so much to think about as far as what could an adventure be I mean, an adventure could be just you getting a cabin- ... and spending a weekend, or car camping, or taking another crazy long walk.
if listeners out there wanna send me an email and say, "I had an idea about an adventure. Here's my adventure map." sometimes it helps to tell someone.
Lisa: Yeah.
Beth: And sometimes you're afraid to tell people because you're afraid they're gonna go, "You can't do that." Yeah. So if you're afraid of that, send me an email and let me know what it is, and I'll share it with Lisa, and we'll celebrate you and send you some powerful vibes so that you can get moving on your adventure.
Tell me some other things that you're doing right now that [00:37:00] people need to know, about you and for you that they can help find you out, out on the interwebs.
Lisa: Thank you, Beth. Yeah, so I did report daily, for my hike.
So if you're interested in reading about my trip or my upcoming adventures, I'm on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, at Lisa Murphy LLC. I also have a bimonthly newsletter, and I'm really thinking a lot and writing a lot about the adventure, concept in that right now. So maybe you can pop a link in the show notes.
You can see about my work on my website, which is lisamurphyllc.com. And then of course, reach out to Beth and find out more about Sylva Sessions, and we'll all have a big adventure together.
Beth: oh my goodness, I think we need to wind this up- ... but I know you and I could sit and talk all afternoon. we will definitely have you back on another episode, sometime in the very near future. I think [00:38:00] we've been doing this almost monthly because between the two of us, there's so much overlap, and together, our message is even stronger.
thank you for coming today. Thank you for sharing the wisdom and the inspiration that you gathered from your big adventure, and I hope, everyone, that this has opened a door for you to think about what you can do for an adventure that will help you stay creative. Thanks so much for coming, Lisa.
I love you to the moon and back. We'll talk again soon.
Lisa: Thanks, Beth. Bye.
